1 00:00:06,869 --> 00:00:05,030 the spacex is preparing for a launch on 2 00:00:08,549 --> 00:00:06,879 next friday exactly a week from now 3 00:00:10,070 --> 00:00:08,559 it'll be delivering some more supplies 4 00:00:12,709 --> 00:00:10,080 and equipment to the international space 5 00:00:14,789 --> 00:00:12,719 station as well as a lot of research and 6 00:00:17,189 --> 00:00:14,799 experiment hardware as part of that 7 00:00:19,990 --> 00:00:17,199 it'll be carrying up a special payload 8 00:00:21,029 --> 00:00:20,000 for about 12 different student teams for 9 00:00:22,470 --> 00:00:21,039 student experiments that will be 10 00:00:24,150 --> 00:00:22,480 performed on the international space 11 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:24,160 station to talk with us a little bit 12 00:00:28,630 --> 00:00:26,240 about this special payload is dr jeff 13 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:28,640 goldstein from the national center for 14 00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:30,640 earth and space science and education 15 00:00:34,790 --> 00:00:32,399 thanks for joining us 16 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:34,800 thanks for being uh for having me 17 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:36,480 so why don't we start with uh if you 18 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:37,760 could just tell us a little bit about 19 00:00:41,190 --> 00:00:39,760 the special payload the yankee clipper 20 00:00:42,389 --> 00:00:41,200 payload can you tell us a little bit 21 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:42,399 about that and how many students have 22 00:00:46,389 --> 00:00:44,399 been involved in these experiments 23 00:00:49,190 --> 00:00:46,399 yeah that that's our eighth flight 24 00:00:50,869 --> 00:00:49,200 opportunity to low earth orbit and the 25 00:00:52,790 --> 00:00:50,879 yankee clipper payload is part of 26 00:00:56,150 --> 00:00:52,800 mission six to the international space 27 00:00:58,229 --> 00:00:56,160 station there are 18 experiments aboard 28 00:01:00,310 --> 00:00:58,239 yankee clipper and each experiment 29 00:01:02,389 --> 00:01:00,320 represents the culmination of hundreds 30 00:01:04,710 --> 00:01:02,399 of students at the local level in a 31 00:01:06,950 --> 00:01:04,720 school district or a community 32 00:01:09,190 --> 00:01:06,960 um designing microgravity experiments 33 00:01:12,149 --> 00:01:09,200 and and writing formal research 34 00:01:15,510 --> 00:01:12,159 proposals just like professionals so 35 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:15,520 across the entire yankee clipper payload 36 00:01:19,270 --> 00:01:17,600 those 18 experiments represent the 37 00:01:22,469 --> 00:01:19,280 combination of 6 38 00:01:25,710 --> 00:01:22,479 900 students fully immersed in formal 39 00:01:28,149 --> 00:01:25,720 microgravity experiment design and 1 40 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:28,159 1487 proposals 41 00:01:33,350 --> 00:01:30,240 submitted by student teams for flight 42 00:01:35,350 --> 00:01:33,360 experiments and then one experiment is 43 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:35,360 selected to fly for each community so 44 00:01:39,990 --> 00:01:37,360 the student flight team 45 00:01:42,950 --> 00:01:40,000 truly represent an ambassadorial corps 46 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:42,960 for the hundreds of students back home 47 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:44,880 that are absolutely invested in this 48 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:47,360 effort and feel that they are part of 49 00:01:51,190 --> 00:01:49,439 america's space program 50 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:51,200 that's amazing 51 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:53,280 so some of these experiments are at 52 00:01:57,990 --> 00:01:54,960 least some of them are reconstituted 53 00:02:00,469 --> 00:01:58,000 experiments that were lost on the recent 54 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:00,479 loss of the orbital cygnus vehicle and 55 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:02,799 these teams turned around in less than 56 00:02:07,109 --> 00:02:04,960 two months to get their experiments 57 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:07,119 reflown on spacex can you tell us a 58 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:09,280 little bit about that effort yeah well 59 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:10,640 the these teams are designing 60 00:02:15,589 --> 00:02:12,959 experiments over a whole range of 61 00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:15,599 possible uh science disciplines um you 62 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:17,280 know i'm looking down at my spreadsheet 63 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:19,280 here crystal growth composting seed 64 00:02:23,670 --> 00:02:21,760 germination life cycle of micro aquatic 65 00:02:26,070 --> 00:02:23,680 life tin whisker growth 66 00:02:28,550 --> 00:02:26,080 food preservation bacterial studies i 67 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:28,560 mean it's a smattering of what we see 68 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:30,560 from the professional community 69 00:02:34,270 --> 00:02:33,200 and on october 28th 70 00:02:37,589 --> 00:02:34,280 we had 71 00:02:39,110 --> 00:02:37,599 130 delegates from the ssep the student 72 00:02:40,390 --> 00:02:39,120 space flight experiments program 73 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:40,400 communities 74 00:02:45,270 --> 00:02:43,920 um at the launch site we had 42 student 75 00:02:47,830 --> 00:02:45,280 researchers 76 00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:47,840 and we were at a public site arbuckle 77 00:02:52,869 --> 00:02:50,160 neck road which i think is the closest 78 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:52,879 viewing site that's um within the safety 79 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:54,080 zone 80 00:02:59,589 --> 00:02:56,640 it's only 1.7 miles away from the launch 81 00:03:02,470 --> 00:02:59,599 pad and the road terminates on the water 82 00:03:04,390 --> 00:03:02,480 oyster bay and looking a lot 83 00:03:06,949 --> 00:03:04,400 past the water you can see the the 84 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:06,959 rocket on pad 0a 85 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:08,640 and just to give you a sense of what it 86 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:11,599 was like um this was a night launch um 87 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:13,120 the sun was setting 88 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:16,480 the moon hung very low um in the sky the 89 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:19,120 rocket was awash in in spotlights 90 00:03:23,830 --> 00:03:21,840 floodlights it was a beautiful night 91 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:23,840 this was the second time we came we had 92 00:03:27,670 --> 00:03:25,680 been there the night before 93 00:03:28,789 --> 00:03:27,680 uh but that was scrubbed because if you 94 00:03:30,390 --> 00:03:28,799 remember there was a boat in the 95 00:03:32,869 --> 00:03:30,400 restricted zone 96 00:03:35,670 --> 00:03:32,879 and this time we got past that t-minus 97 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:35,680 12-second hold and everybody felt that 98 00:03:38,229 --> 00:03:37,200 that it was going to fly this time 99 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:38,239 around 100 00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:41,280 and we had a patch to mission control 101 00:03:45,509 --> 00:03:42,720 and brought up 102 00:03:47,990 --> 00:03:45,519 a portable pa system with us so we had 103 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:48,000 mission control filling the air on the 104 00:03:51,990 --> 00:03:49,360 shoreline 105 00:03:53,750 --> 00:03:52,000 and uh we we all got together and did 106 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:53,760 the 10 second countdown and you could 107 00:03:58,229 --> 00:03:55,920 look at the faces i remembered it i took 108 00:04:00,869 --> 00:03:58,239 time to look at everybody's face 109 00:04:03,429 --> 00:04:00,879 and you could see a for euphoria um in 110 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:03,439 both young and old young and old across 111 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:05,760 generational lines there was this 112 00:04:10,630 --> 00:04:08,959 euphoria and this spirit of exploration 113 00:04:14,229 --> 00:04:10,640 in everyone's face 114 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:14,239 and the rocket ignited and everybody was 115 00:04:19,509 --> 00:04:16,720 cheering and then it became very clear 116 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:19,519 that something was very wrong and a few 117 00:04:22,469 --> 00:04:21,120 seconds later there was a massive 118 00:04:24,469 --> 00:04:22,479 detonation 119 00:04:25,590 --> 00:04:24,479 two seconds after that the blast wave 120 00:04:28,790 --> 00:04:25,600 hit us 121 00:04:31,189 --> 00:04:28,800 and it went from euphoria to despair and 122 00:04:33,670 --> 00:04:31,199 security was incredibly effective they 123 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:33,680 hustled us out of there very quickly 124 00:04:37,909 --> 00:04:35,680 and many of our teams we didn't have any 125 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:37,919 time to decompress they they were they 126 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:40,560 were scattering and many 127 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:43,440 drove through the night to get back home 128 00:04:47,350 --> 00:04:45,440 in the midst of this depression 129 00:04:49,430 --> 00:04:47,360 and this was a national news story there 130 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:49,440 were media outlets that were waiting for 131 00:04:54,870 --> 00:04:52,560 them in the in the early morning hours 132 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:54,880 and what we were trying to do on social 133 00:04:58,950 --> 00:04:57,440 media is keep their spirits alive and 134 00:05:01,029 --> 00:04:58,960 let them understand that you know 135 00:05:02,150 --> 00:05:01,039 failure is a part of life failure 136 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:02,160 happens 137 00:05:06,469 --> 00:05:04,560 and what we do in the face of failure 138 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:06,479 defines who we are 139 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:08,960 and we didn't know how mission 6 was 140 00:05:13,590 --> 00:05:11,440 going to proceed but we 141 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:13,600 we sort of got a glimpse of this very 142 00:05:18,629 --> 00:05:15,759 quickly within with le within less than 143 00:05:21,350 --> 00:05:18,639 an hour of the accident 144 00:05:23,430 --> 00:05:21,360 jeff member the uh managing director of 145 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:23,440 nanorack's alarm services provider 146 00:05:27,909 --> 00:05:24,960 called me 147 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:27,919 and said we are uh working on 148 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:30,880 on on how we can re-manifest this and 149 00:05:35,110 --> 00:05:32,639 behind the scenes he was talking with 150 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:35,120 nasa the space station uh the space 151 00:05:38,950 --> 00:05:37,440 station office he was talking to folks 152 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:38,960 at the white house 153 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:41,039 and we were just telling the students 154 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:42,720 we're trying to figure out how we can 155 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:44,320 make this work whether it's going to be 156 00:05:48,469 --> 00:05:46,320 six months a year we didn't know what 157 00:05:51,749 --> 00:05:48,479 the turnaround time would be our hearts 158 00:05:53,830 --> 00:05:51,759 went out to nasa and orbital sciences 159 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:53,840 and then within a week we were notified 160 00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:55,280 we were given marching orders by 161 00:06:02,070 --> 00:05:58,800 nanoracks that we need to move forward 162 00:06:03,189 --> 00:06:02,080 and process a new uh yankee clipper two 163 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:03,199 payload 164 00:06:09,909 --> 00:06:06,639 by november 21st it had to be in houston 165 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:09,919 my by november 21st just three weeks 166 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:12,160 after the accident because nasa had 167 00:06:16,950 --> 00:06:14,400 pulled non-essential payload 168 00:06:19,749 --> 00:06:16,960 off of spacex five and was making room 169 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:19,759 for this um for this new uh 170 00:06:25,029 --> 00:06:21,759 reconstituted payload 171 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:25,039 and um all of the teams um really 172 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:27,600 stepped to the plate on this um they 173 00:06:32,150 --> 00:06:29,280 they felt that you know this was a 174 00:06:34,390 --> 00:06:32,160 life-changing experience that they were 175 00:06:37,590 --> 00:06:34,400 really part of 176 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:37,600 the space program and they all 177 00:06:43,270 --> 00:06:40,080 17 of the 18 experiments 178 00:06:45,749 --> 00:06:43,280 um were reconstituted and got to houston 179 00:06:47,189 --> 00:06:45,759 for payload integration on time 180 00:06:49,029 --> 00:06:47,199 they stepped to the plate and did 181 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:49,039 everything expected of a profession 182 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:51,360 professional microgravity researchers 183 00:06:55,589 --> 00:06:53,360 and the 18th experiment didn't make it 184 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:55,599 on only because there was a swap out of 185 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:56,800 one uh 186 00:07:01,110 --> 00:06:59,039 critical component so they needed to go 187 00:07:02,230 --> 00:07:01,120 through flight safety review review 188 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:02,240 again and they're going to be flying 189 00:07:07,589 --> 00:07:04,560 with mission seven so we are go for 190 00:07:09,749 --> 00:07:07,599 launch we are incredibly excited and we 191 00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:09,759 are very um proud to be part of the 192 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:12,400 space community dr goldstein we're so 193 00:07:15,990 --> 00:07:14,560 excited that that the teams were able to 194 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:16,000 jump into action and get these 195 00:07:18,469 --> 00:07:17,360 experiments put back together to be 196 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:18,479 reflown 197 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:20,800 i know we just have one minute left you 198 00:07:23,430 --> 00:07:22,080 kind of spoke to it but i guess i'm just 199 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:23,440 kind of curious what is the sentiments 200 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:25,280 of the students now 201 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:27,440 um i think 202 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:30,080 there's a higher level of euphoria now 203 00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:32,160 than there was before 204 00:07:38,309 --> 00:07:35,120 because we you know we met the challenge 205 00:07:41,270 --> 00:07:38,319 and came through and i think um this is 206 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:41,280 really an incredibly powerful lesson 207 00:07:46,230 --> 00:07:43,840 that um you know research is not 208 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:46,240 supposed to be easy human exploration is 209 00:07:50,309 --> 00:07:49,280 not supposed to be easy it's hard 210 00:07:52,629 --> 00:07:50,319 so what 211 00:07:54,710 --> 00:07:52,639 failure happens and we just got to punch 212 00:07:55,589 --> 00:07:54,720 through it and that's what we all did 213 00:07:58,790 --> 00:07:55,599 so we